485Mbe4001
08-21 07:30 PM
An article of getting PIO card from India :)
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I am a Person of Indian Origin. I have a slate-grey passport-like document issued by the Indian government that says so. But I�m not really. I was not born or brought up here, and I do not have a single direct ancestor who, as far as I know, ever lived in India. I have become the proud possessor of a Persons of Indian Origin card because I am married to an Indian citizen.
I had lived in India, on and off, for ten years�and had been married to an Indian citizen for even longer.
Two men were seated at the edge of the sofa, looking more nervous than me. Shireen was questioning them.
Previously, my visas were renewed every six months. We now wanted to stay in India indefinitely and make our home in Delhi. I would have preferred dual citizenship�but that wasn�t, and still isn�t, available. PIO would be second best. But the actual card was not easy to come by. It involved a total of 17 visits to three separate ministries and five different offices. It took up at least four full days of my life. I was interviewed twice, the second time at home with my wife, Shireen. The first time was at the offices of the Foreigners Division, Ministry of Home Affairs, in an unventilated, very public room brimming with non-Indians from every continent. I reached the head of the queue after two hours of eavesdropping on other people�s immigration problems. I was asked, among other more prosaic questions, to explain why I had married an Indian woman (�Love,� I said, monosyllabically), and then, with a leer and a twinkle, whether I had had many Indian girlfriends. �N-no�, I stuttered. My hesitant response did not reflect either uncertainty or mendacity on my part, but my surprise and my growing irritation with the questioner. The interview ended abruptly. He wrote �Refer for further enquiry� on my residence permit and said I would receive a home visit. �We need to be sure that marriages to Indian citizens are genuine.�
Several weeks later, one Friday afternoon around 5 pm, I received a phone call as I was pottering around the streets of central Delhi.
�He wanted a bribe, you idiot,� my friend said. �You�ll never get your card now; he�d have been happy with Rs 100.�
The investigators from the Home Ministry would be at my home at 5.30. As I rushed home, images of Mr and Mrs, a television programme of my UK childhood, flashed through my mind. A gormless husband would be placed in a soundproof booth, while his bright-as-a-button wife would stand on the stage. She would be asked semi-intimate questions about their life together: what was the first present she gave him when they were ? What colour nightclothes was she wearing yesterday? And so on. The husband was then released from the booth, and would invariably get the answers wrong, to his embarrassment and everyone else�s amusement. It was gentle viewing�a mild celebration of female omniscience and male autism. But now I was going to take part in a real-life version of Mr and Mrs, and my precious PIO card, and perhaps my right to stay in India, would depend on it. And, suddenly I could not, for the life of me, remember the colour of Shireen�s toothbrush, or the name of her favourite Hindi movie, or her shoe size. Fifteen years of marriage had been erased from my memory. I was sweating with nerves by the time I reached home.
Two men were seated on the edge of the sofa, looking even more nervous than me, untouched glasses of water in front of them. Shireen was questioning them about their professional qualifications�which were not very extensive. I gave her a self-conscious kiss on the cheek and sat down. At that point, our children burst in, a dancing duet of carefree excitement.
�What are these children?� asked the chief investigator.
�They�re ours.� Shireen responded with a slight chill in her voice.
�Children of both of you? They are very old.�
�Yes, both of us. They�re twelve and eleven.�
�How do you have children if you are just married?� I had not prepared for this baffling line of questioning�and was later reprimanded for just sitting there with my mouth open. Shireen, meanwhile, delivered a crushing blow.
�Ridiculous (sotto voce).... This is all totally ridiculous (out loud).... We�ve been married for fifteen years.�
I nodded eagerly.
The two men looked at each other, aghast, and then started scrabbling through the cardboard file they had brought with them. It became clear that they normally interviewed newly-married couples.
�Can we see your marriage certificate?� I showed it to them and was asked for a copy. I printed out a copy of the certificate, which was downloaded on my computer. They then got up and left�abruptly ending my brief cameo on Mr and Mrs�having promised a decision within two weeks.
The following evening, a Saturday, our cook, Pan Singh, said one of the men who had come yesterday was at the gate, asking for a lifafa, the Hindi word for envelope. I asked him to invite the man in. Pan Singh returned, a little sheepish, saying the man refused to come in, but just wanted a lifafa�with our marriage certificate. And so, slightly puzzled, I printed out another copy.
Later, I told a friend this story. �He wanted a bribe, you idiot. A lifafa is what you put the bribe in. You�ll never get your PIO card now, and he�d have been perfectly happy with 100 rupees.�
Three weeks later I went to the Foreigners� Regional Registration Office to hear the good news, and the bad. �Your application for a PIO has successfully passed the enquiry stage,� the official informed me without looking up. �But unfortunately, Mr Miller, all your documentation has gone astray and you will need to resubmit.� I looked heavenwards and brought my hand down rather heavily on the table. �I�m sorry. We�re not computerised yet, and some of our agents are a little careless.� It may have been my imagination, but I�m sure I detected the trace of a wink in her left eye. �Probably best to apply next time you�re in London,� she told me cheerfully. I walked away presuming, but unable to prove, that my papers had been deliberately lost.
I took her advice. Three weeks after putting in my application to the Indian High Commission in London (no interview necessary), I had my precious PIO card�together with a 15-year visa, the right to buy property in India, and, to my amusement, the ability to join the diplomats� queue at immigration at Delhi airport. This is of no practical use, because I still have to wait just as long for my luggage, but I do get childishly gleeful as I saunter past the first-class passengers.
www.outlookindia.com | The Papers Are In Order (http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?261306)
I am a Person of Indian Origin. I have a slate-grey passport-like document issued by the Indian government that says so. But I�m not really. I was not born or brought up here, and I do not have a single direct ancestor who, as far as I know, ever lived in India. I have become the proud possessor of a Persons of Indian Origin card because I am married to an Indian citizen.
I had lived in India, on and off, for ten years�and had been married to an Indian citizen for even longer.
Two men were seated at the edge of the sofa, looking more nervous than me. Shireen was questioning them.
Previously, my visas were renewed every six months. We now wanted to stay in India indefinitely and make our home in Delhi. I would have preferred dual citizenship�but that wasn�t, and still isn�t, available. PIO would be second best. But the actual card was not easy to come by. It involved a total of 17 visits to three separate ministries and five different offices. It took up at least four full days of my life. I was interviewed twice, the second time at home with my wife, Shireen. The first time was at the offices of the Foreigners Division, Ministry of Home Affairs, in an unventilated, very public room brimming with non-Indians from every continent. I reached the head of the queue after two hours of eavesdropping on other people�s immigration problems. I was asked, among other more prosaic questions, to explain why I had married an Indian woman (�Love,� I said, monosyllabically), and then, with a leer and a twinkle, whether I had had many Indian girlfriends. �N-no�, I stuttered. My hesitant response did not reflect either uncertainty or mendacity on my part, but my surprise and my growing irritation with the questioner. The interview ended abruptly. He wrote �Refer for further enquiry� on my residence permit and said I would receive a home visit. �We need to be sure that marriages to Indian citizens are genuine.�
Several weeks later, one Friday afternoon around 5 pm, I received a phone call as I was pottering around the streets of central Delhi.
�He wanted a bribe, you idiot,� my friend said. �You�ll never get your card now; he�d have been happy with Rs 100.�
The investigators from the Home Ministry would be at my home at 5.30. As I rushed home, images of Mr and Mrs, a television programme of my UK childhood, flashed through my mind. A gormless husband would be placed in a soundproof booth, while his bright-as-a-button wife would stand on the stage. She would be asked semi-intimate questions about their life together: what was the first present she gave him when they were ? What colour nightclothes was she wearing yesterday? And so on. The husband was then released from the booth, and would invariably get the answers wrong, to his embarrassment and everyone else�s amusement. It was gentle viewing�a mild celebration of female omniscience and male autism. But now I was going to take part in a real-life version of Mr and Mrs, and my precious PIO card, and perhaps my right to stay in India, would depend on it. And, suddenly I could not, for the life of me, remember the colour of Shireen�s toothbrush, or the name of her favourite Hindi movie, or her shoe size. Fifteen years of marriage had been erased from my memory. I was sweating with nerves by the time I reached home.
Two men were seated on the edge of the sofa, looking even more nervous than me, untouched glasses of water in front of them. Shireen was questioning them about their professional qualifications�which were not very extensive. I gave her a self-conscious kiss on the cheek and sat down. At that point, our children burst in, a dancing duet of carefree excitement.
�What are these children?� asked the chief investigator.
�They�re ours.� Shireen responded with a slight chill in her voice.
�Children of both of you? They are very old.�
�Yes, both of us. They�re twelve and eleven.�
�How do you have children if you are just married?� I had not prepared for this baffling line of questioning�and was later reprimanded for just sitting there with my mouth open. Shireen, meanwhile, delivered a crushing blow.
�Ridiculous (sotto voce).... This is all totally ridiculous (out loud).... We�ve been married for fifteen years.�
I nodded eagerly.
The two men looked at each other, aghast, and then started scrabbling through the cardboard file they had brought with them. It became clear that they normally interviewed newly-married couples.
�Can we see your marriage certificate?� I showed it to them and was asked for a copy. I printed out a copy of the certificate, which was downloaded on my computer. They then got up and left�abruptly ending my brief cameo on Mr and Mrs�having promised a decision within two weeks.
The following evening, a Saturday, our cook, Pan Singh, said one of the men who had come yesterday was at the gate, asking for a lifafa, the Hindi word for envelope. I asked him to invite the man in. Pan Singh returned, a little sheepish, saying the man refused to come in, but just wanted a lifafa�with our marriage certificate. And so, slightly puzzled, I printed out another copy.
Later, I told a friend this story. �He wanted a bribe, you idiot. A lifafa is what you put the bribe in. You�ll never get your PIO card now, and he�d have been perfectly happy with 100 rupees.�
Three weeks later I went to the Foreigners� Regional Registration Office to hear the good news, and the bad. �Your application for a PIO has successfully passed the enquiry stage,� the official informed me without looking up. �But unfortunately, Mr Miller, all your documentation has gone astray and you will need to resubmit.� I looked heavenwards and brought my hand down rather heavily on the table. �I�m sorry. We�re not computerised yet, and some of our agents are a little careless.� It may have been my imagination, but I�m sure I detected the trace of a wink in her left eye. �Probably best to apply next time you�re in London,� she told me cheerfully. I walked away presuming, but unable to prove, that my papers had been deliberately lost.
I took her advice. Three weeks after putting in my application to the Indian High Commission in London (no interview necessary), I had my precious PIO card�together with a 15-year visa, the right to buy property in India, and, to my amusement, the ability to join the diplomats� queue at immigration at Delhi airport. This is of no practical use, because I still have to wait just as long for my luggage, but I do get childishly gleeful as I saunter past the first-class passengers.
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GCapplicant
03-14 11:34 AM
I agree with Bharat Premi...
Even according to my lawyer there are not much cases in 2004 /2005 EB3 I...
Guess many have chosen EB2 as they were eligible by that time .I dont understand why EB3 I is being projected so negatively.
Many have already transferred EB3 to EB2.
2001/2002 may be there are still duplicate open applications which USCIS have to sort out .
Lets hope for the best...But seeing Bharat Premi responses...builds hope.
Thanks
Even according to my lawyer there are not much cases in 2004 /2005 EB3 I...
Guess many have chosen EB2 as they were eligible by that time .I dont understand why EB3 I is being projected so negatively.
Many have already transferred EB3 to EB2.
2001/2002 may be there are still duplicate open applications which USCIS have to sort out .
Lets hope for the best...But seeing Bharat Premi responses...builds hope.
Thanks
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I_need_GC
06-30 04:41 PM
Are you serious????? Are you sure it is I-485 application? not EAD application or something ?
I am telling you...if your 485 got approved really, you are the luckiest person on this earth....if it is real, Congratulations!!!! enjoy!!! don't worry about why u got it....
No its I-485 I just cut and pasted the two emails I received, first at 10am then the second at 3 pm check online and the system had same messages. If its true I am having a party wow man thanks I did come to US in 1997. I do have a labor which was approved under RIR PD date 2004 but the employer refused to file I-140. Then again filed PERM in 2007 under EB2 and filed I-140/I-485 based on this PERM
I am telling you...if your 485 got approved really, you are the luckiest person on this earth....if it is real, Congratulations!!!! enjoy!!! don't worry about why u got it....
No its I-485 I just cut and pasted the two emails I received, first at 10am then the second at 3 pm check online and the system had same messages. If its true I am having a party wow man thanks I did come to US in 1997. I do have a labor which was approved under RIR PD date 2004 but the employer refused to file I-140. Then again filed PERM in 2007 under EB2 and filed I-140/I-485 based on this PERM
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tonyHK12
03-28 09:15 PM
I thought that was straight to the point, as you started using expletive.
Well I didn't start using it, I was responding. And thank you no one needs your lecture.
Well I didn't start using it, I was responding. And thank you no one needs your lecture.
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netnerd
07-17 03:01 PM
Does this attorney approachable ? Does he answer your phone calls ?
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
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dilber
06-26 05:32 PM
I called the office and also got my better half to call. BTW I was locked out of the forum for a couple of weeks when after loggin in it was directing me to update my information. which I promptly did but it seems all the fields have meen made mandatory so it kept of directime me to put other information like when I applied for my I 485 which I haven't but I had to eventually put some garbage data. can some one look into this, I am sure there are a lot of other IV members being blocked out.
Thanks in Advance.
Thanks in Advance.
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elliptic
05-11 10:59 PM
You do not need to have an SSN in 2008, since you can apply for the stithmulus payment in 2009 if you did not get it in 2008. This rule is posted on the IRS website.
The IRS webpage is saying something different. It makes it clear that you need the
SSN in 2008. (Second and last question on
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=181995,00.html)
Please do not refer to the stimulus payment as a rebate in any communications you have. It is not a rebate, which implies the return of money paid. Many people who earn no taxable income can apply for the stimulus payment. This makes it different from any tax scheme. The fact that the IRS administers the program does not prove that it is a tax program.
This is what I did. But the argument is not strong. The same applies to the
additional child tax credit. I got more money back then I paid, i.e., I had to
pay a negative amount of federal tax :-) (So this country is so mad that it
gives me an H1-visa for working and in addition pays me some money
for staying here.)
Anyhow, the IRS seems to offer a solution now:
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately"
status to qualify for the economic stimulus payment and later on amend my
original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the
stimulus payment?
A. No. [New 4/14/08]
Unfortunately, I filed already in January before there was a stimulus law.
Should I amend my 2007 return now, then file my 2008 return, and then amend
my 2007 return again??? As reason I give to circumvent a stupid law.
The IRS webpage is saying something different. It makes it clear that you need the
SSN in 2008. (Second and last question on
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=181995,00.html)
Please do not refer to the stimulus payment as a rebate in any communications you have. It is not a rebate, which implies the return of money paid. Many people who earn no taxable income can apply for the stimulus payment. This makes it different from any tax scheme. The fact that the IRS administers the program does not prove that it is a tax program.
This is what I did. But the argument is not strong. The same applies to the
additional child tax credit. I got more money back then I paid, i.e., I had to
pay a negative amount of federal tax :-) (So this country is so mad that it
gives me an H1-visa for working and in addition pays me some money
for staying here.)
Anyhow, the IRS seems to offer a solution now:
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately"
status to qualify for the economic stimulus payment and later on amend my
original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the
stimulus payment?
A. No. [New 4/14/08]
Unfortunately, I filed already in January before there was a stimulus law.
Should I amend my 2007 return now, then file my 2008 return, and then amend
my 2007 return again??? As reason I give to circumvent a stupid law.
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franklin
09-27 01:46 PM
Speed of approval is not the problem. The NUMBERS are the problem. We saw that in June when so many ppl got approved.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn�t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
That is actually not true. Approval will not become quicker if speed is not improved.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn�t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
That is actually not true. Approval will not become quicker if speed is not improved.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
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gcdreamer05
05-16 11:18 AM
Great work toro , the article was very good...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987/page/2/
So do we have any update on this, will it be possible to get SSN for H4 dependents?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987/page/2/
So do we have any update on this, will it be possible to get SSN for H4 dependents?
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pcs
04-08 08:13 AM
Please check Q&A ( I think Q&A no. 18) in immigration-law.com . It has been detailed & you can do it. Also keep sharing your info / experience as it will be of use to some other like you.
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ilikekilo
03-13 04:12 PM
EB3 (India) moved 2 months. Good news. But then?
What you expect for Eb3 guys? What may be the trend in coming months?
2002....2003....2004.....?
sit and wait...until u get old.. u know i mean
What you expect for Eb3 guys? What may be the trend in coming months?
2002....2003....2004.....?
sit and wait...until u get old.. u know i mean
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valuablehurdle
07-01 09:55 AM
My PD is April 07.
I got two LUDs on June 26th and June 30th out of the blue for my 485....
Not sure why...
I applied for EAD renewal on June 24th though.... but I got LUDs saperately for these two too but on idfferent days
I got two LUDs on June 26th and June 30th out of the blue for my 485....
Not sure why...
I applied for EAD renewal on June 24th though.... but I got LUDs saperately for these two too but on idfferent days
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furiouspride
07-22 11:15 AM
Not really. Every has the freedom to chose what they like or not. Exactly because of these rude attitude of Hindi People I never speak hindi.
I'm a South Indian and I have never had issues with Hindi or Hindi-speaking people. In fact, many of my friends are Hindi-speaking and I'm quite well-versed with the language as well (why not?). You cannot make a blanket statement saying that everyone speaking a particular language is rude or has bad attitude. Just goes to show one's ignorance.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
I'm a South Indian and I have never had issues with Hindi or Hindi-speaking people. In fact, many of my friends are Hindi-speaking and I'm quite well-versed with the language as well (why not?). You cannot make a blanket statement saying that everyone speaking a particular language is rude or has bad attitude. Just goes to show one's ignorance.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
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RajForGC
06-19 04:07 PM
Does this Bill and all associated Amendents get the new introduction date or it will basically take over from the Last Bill and Amedments. I am asking this question because last bill saying 140 after May 15 will be invalidated. Is thi still valid for this Bill? or they are gonna use tomorrow's date.
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03-03 03:34 PM
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07-21 02:06 AM
Nice to see IV name in the list...
thomachan72
06-09 02:46 PM
I replied to the EB3_Nepa's first post saying that we probably should support killing this bill and try to attach our amendments to other bills.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
Amma
12-10 03:13 PM
Friends,
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
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