jsb
03-06 10:43 AM
Based on the reply to this FOIA from Needhelp!, it seems that we have a bigger problem than transparency.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
Their systems are not designed for country chargeability and priority date considerations. Although some of the information is in computer systems for reporting, publication, online status, automatic emails, etc, most of it is paper based. They claim that they process cases in order they (physically) receive them at each processing center.
Possibly, what they do is that they pick cases from shelves in sequence they stacked when they received them, check various docs such as medical, birth certificates, copie of I-140, passports, etc., and then, if all ok, check for country of chargeability. If that is India or China, then they look at the current bulletin dates. If case is within cutoff dates, proceed, else put it back, and take next file.
Therefore, they are correct in saying that chargeability is determined (means: looked at) when case is ready (meaning: it is next in line) for reviewing and adjudication.
Note that there is no physical file sorting based on chargeability/PD etc. Bulletins are just best guesses based on general progress in preceding months.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
Their systems are not designed for country chargeability and priority date considerations. Although some of the information is in computer systems for reporting, publication, online status, automatic emails, etc, most of it is paper based. They claim that they process cases in order they (physically) receive them at each processing center.
Possibly, what they do is that they pick cases from shelves in sequence they stacked when they received them, check various docs such as medical, birth certificates, copie of I-140, passports, etc., and then, if all ok, check for country of chargeability. If that is India or China, then they look at the current bulletin dates. If case is within cutoff dates, proceed, else put it back, and take next file.
Therefore, they are correct in saying that chargeability is determined (means: looked at) when case is ready (meaning: it is next in line) for reviewing and adjudication.
Note that there is no physical file sorting based on chargeability/PD etc. Bulletins are just best guesses based on general progress in preceding months.
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desi485
10-27 05:41 PM
Are we/employees really supposed to know all the steps involved in the approval of GC process (Perm, 140/EAD/485 etc.)?
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I completely agree with what you are saying. We are overly-active community due to monster called 'retrogression', otherwise none of us would be knowing immigration details as much as we do now.
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I completely agree with what you are saying. We are overly-active community due to monster called 'retrogression', otherwise none of us would be knowing immigration details as much as we do now.
whoever
02-13 02:04 PM
factoryman, looks like chlei or whatever has wrong information. i guess he/she is presuming "Schedule A applicants are entitled to up to 50,000 �recaptured� numbers." even now.
chlei or whatever, that is not true. those 50000 expired jan 2007 or sometime around and i agree with factoryman that we must stop them from geting our unused visas again this year. i have written to some senators listed on HLG blog
chlei or whatever, that is not true. those 50000 expired jan 2007 or sometime around and i agree with factoryman that we must stop them from geting our unused visas again this year. i have written to some senators listed on HLG blog
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NolaIndian32
04-27 01:56 PM
Thanks for your help and support pshah. We appreciate it.
This brings our total to $3,336.
Lets get this up to $5000!!!
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gcseeker2002
12-01 09:29 AM
The basic idea behind this approach is to channel all the negative energy into something positive.
Here is what me and my wife are doing. When the retrogression first hit us in 2005 January we were both devastated even more so because one my friend and his wife, with same the same priority date as ours and similar EB3 RIR got the Green Card on 24 Dec 2004. We would not have been so frustrated if they had the priority date even a month or so before us. But some are just lucky I guess. Coming back to what we are doing. My wife started her masters and finished in May this year. She could have finished in December but we were really banking on the CIR in May so she took more courses and finished it faster. Well that did not happen so whats next. So now I will be starting school again for second Masters this time MBA from one of the top10 B schools in January 2007. Ideally I wanted to do Full Time because its shorter duration as compared to part time but GC God (I wish there was one like that so that I can do the "Nariyal Pooja" or "Mundan" or "Abhishek") had otherr wishes so I have now switched from full time to part time. Lets see if my part time MBA of 4 years wins the race or Green Card wins the racce against time.
Moral of the story. Channelize your energy into something positive and get masters or second for that matter, or learn a new language, enroll in classes to learn languages that run for 6 months at community classees by the time you get your GC you will know atleast a dozen languages.
Lage Raho GC Bhai....
I know these are good ways to keep our mind off the gc, but for most of us who have spent 9 -10 years waiting and have family responsibilities, the steam of further studies has ran out especially if you have to pay for it yourself.
Here is what me and my wife are doing. When the retrogression first hit us in 2005 January we were both devastated even more so because one my friend and his wife, with same the same priority date as ours and similar EB3 RIR got the Green Card on 24 Dec 2004. We would not have been so frustrated if they had the priority date even a month or so before us. But some are just lucky I guess. Coming back to what we are doing. My wife started her masters and finished in May this year. She could have finished in December but we were really banking on the CIR in May so she took more courses and finished it faster. Well that did not happen so whats next. So now I will be starting school again for second Masters this time MBA from one of the top10 B schools in January 2007. Ideally I wanted to do Full Time because its shorter duration as compared to part time but GC God (I wish there was one like that so that I can do the "Nariyal Pooja" or "Mundan" or "Abhishek") had otherr wishes so I have now switched from full time to part time. Lets see if my part time MBA of 4 years wins the race or Green Card wins the racce against time.
Moral of the story. Channelize your energy into something positive and get masters or second for that matter, or learn a new language, enroll in classes to learn languages that run for 6 months at community classees by the time you get your GC you will know atleast a dozen languages.
Lage Raho GC Bhai....
I know these are good ways to keep our mind off the gc, but for most of us who have spent 9 -10 years waiting and have family responsibilities, the steam of further studies has ran out especially if you have to pay for it yourself.
rsrikant
07-20 09:38 AM
hi guys,
have you seen this link??
http://149.101.23.2/graphics/fieldoffices/SCNational/index.htm#D
search for text "Reminder". the point no. 15.
i think that paragraph is a bit relieving...
what do you infer from it??
have you seen this link??
http://149.101.23.2/graphics/fieldoffices/SCNational/index.htm#D
search for text "Reminder". the point no. 15.
i think that paragraph is a bit relieving...
what do you infer from it??
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bigboy007
08-05 05:01 PM
True if one want to die for Citizenship , But job market is not as great as here. One needs to be really lucky to be there and I also agree that its lot easier in life once you have a stable job. I have some friends who are well settled and enjoying a cool life. WHere as some are still looking for one and many moved back to US or Gulf once they got citizenship so it all depends... But Certain Citizenship of Canada is easiest compared to that of US and well respected too compared to US.
Kris04,
Appreciate your realastic advise, I believe its worth one dies in canada for citizenship. I would say CANADA is a great nation and citizenship is widely respected, on top of everything you are widely allowed to any country.
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Kris04,
Appreciate your realastic advise, I believe its worth one dies in canada for citizenship. I would say CANADA is a great nation and citizenship is widely respected, on top of everything you are widely allowed to any country.
Soni
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starscream
06-19 03:42 PM
Are there any favorable provisions for us?
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bigboy007
05-30 07:08 PM
What happened to this bill ? Skilled Worker Immigration and Fairness Act'
by lieberman , it says its referred to Judicial committee , but as a matter of fact Durbin - Grassley who are proposing amendment against H1B , are part of this committee what are the chances or how can we guess when it will come to Senate discussion.
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by lieberman , it says its referred to Judicial committee , but as a matter of fact Durbin - Grassley who are proposing amendment against H1B , are part of this committee what are the chances or how can we guess when it will come to Senate discussion.
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factoryman
02-12 12:49 PM
Here is the status update from HLG website. Note the date. Anybody here at IV, agree with me, if it needs to be countered by a direct web fax to Congress.
2/12/2007 IMMIGRATION ALERT:
ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE
HLG has confirmed that the Senate leadership is comfortable with a proposal to solve retrogression for Schedule A occupation -- registered nurses and physical therapists. It was through grassroots advocacy that we were able to explain to the Senate leadership just how important this issue is. Thank you to everyone who made an effort.
We now must turn our efforts toward the House.
If anyone works with or at any hospitals in the following Representatives' districts, please contact Chris Musillo (cmusillo@hammondlawfirm.com; 513-381-2011 x223) ASAP.
Rep. Lofgren (D - CA) : 16th District - San Jose
Rep. Eshoo (D- CA) : 14th District - San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Cruz
Rep. Pelosi (D - CA) : 8th District - San Francisco and north
Essentially anyone who is located in the Bay Area and wants to see retrogression solved should contact their hospital leadership and see if they are willing to make a few phone calls and sign onto a letter. If they are willing to do that, please let Chris know ASAP. Chris can then explain exactly what needs to be done.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
We're getting close.
Keep up with the latest Immigration News by signing up for all of Hammond Law Group LLC's free publications:
Immigration Alerts, Medical Monthly Monitor and Business Immigration Quarterly.
http://www.hammondlawfirm.com/mailing_list.htm
2/12/2007 IMMIGRATION ALERT:
ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE
HLG has confirmed that the Senate leadership is comfortable with a proposal to solve retrogression for Schedule A occupation -- registered nurses and physical therapists. It was through grassroots advocacy that we were able to explain to the Senate leadership just how important this issue is. Thank you to everyone who made an effort.
We now must turn our efforts toward the House.
If anyone works with or at any hospitals in the following Representatives' districts, please contact Chris Musillo (cmusillo@hammondlawfirm.com; 513-381-2011 x223) ASAP.
Rep. Lofgren (D - CA) : 16th District - San Jose
Rep. Eshoo (D- CA) : 14th District - San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Cruz
Rep. Pelosi (D - CA) : 8th District - San Francisco and north
Essentially anyone who is located in the Bay Area and wants to see retrogression solved should contact their hospital leadership and see if they are willing to make a few phone calls and sign onto a letter. If they are willing to do that, please let Chris know ASAP. Chris can then explain exactly what needs to be done.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
We're getting close.
Keep up with the latest Immigration News by signing up for all of Hammond Law Group LLC's free publications:
Immigration Alerts, Medical Monthly Monitor and Business Immigration Quarterly.
http://www.hammondlawfirm.com/mailing_list.htm
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gc28262
05-17 12:05 PM
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flack194
07-10 01:22 AM
My advanced parole is good till October 2, 2009. I have been in and out US 2 times, spent 2 months abroad doing finals in college. Am going to intern abroad, until October 28th.
Q1: What is the best date to reenter the US and renew advanced parole? Do I need to be in the US to renew AP?
Q2: How long do I need to stay in US after sending in my renewal? Do I need to wait the 3 months to get the new parole?
Thank you
Q1: What is the best date to reenter the US and renew advanced parole? Do I need to be in the US to renew AP?
Q2: How long do I need to stay in US after sending in my renewal? Do I need to wait the 3 months to get the new parole?
Thank you
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raju123
07-03 03:31 PM
Don't waste time by calling National Call service center. They all are dumb !! They don't know anything. They just read the on line status of our case, which 8 year kid can do.
According to the first guy I talked to, one has already been assigned upon the start of processing of the case.
I just called again and the lady was completely clueless about the whole July 2 fiasco. I will try again in another hour and hopefully I won't get the village idiot again.
For anyone interested in calling themselves here is the info: 1-800-375-5283 options 1, 2, 3 (and possibly 6 after that-I can't remember).
According to the first guy I talked to, one has already been assigned upon the start of processing of the case.
I just called again and the lady was completely clueless about the whole July 2 fiasco. I will try again in another hour and hopefully I won't get the village idiot again.
For anyone interested in calling themselves here is the info: 1-800-375-5283 options 1, 2, 3 (and possibly 6 after that-I can't remember).
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needhelp!
02-13 04:44 PM
Things are going to start heating up if you try to overtake me.
Thank you abhijitp, waiting4gc and needhelp! These are some great pointers, and my chances sound better already. I am going to see what I can do :) Things have picked up a little on my numbers today, happy to say at 163 now!
Thank you abhijitp, waiting4gc and needhelp! These are some great pointers, and my chances sound better already. I am going to see what I can do :) Things have picked up a little on my numbers today, happy to say at 163 now!
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09-21 09:44 PM
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zephyrr
07-23 03:39 PM
Here is my take on usabal, the firm is well known in the Bay Area, so if you are in that area, you are ok.
For TX, they acquired the firm Jenkens and Gilchrist last year. Jenkens attorneys are very conservative, and if you happen to work for a big employer who has hired Berry, Appleman... you are screwed.
They may still work out ok for you on an individual basis, I would stay away from their TX office for sure.
Berry, Appleman & Leiden LLP is very good firm. I have very good experience with them. They completed all my paper work on Jun 30, so that they can file by July 2. Also the attorney and the para-legal were really good and replied to my questions patiently. The website is http://www.usabal.com/
Karthik
For TX, they acquired the firm Jenkens and Gilchrist last year. Jenkens attorneys are very conservative, and if you happen to work for a big employer who has hired Berry, Appleman... you are screwed.
They may still work out ok for you on an individual basis, I would stay away from their TX office for sure.
Berry, Appleman & Leiden LLP is very good firm. I have very good experience with them. They completed all my paper work on Jun 30, so that they can file by July 2. Also the attorney and the para-legal were really good and replied to my questions patiently. The website is http://www.usabal.com/
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chmur
07-17 02:10 PM
PD Nov 2001 - Nov 2002 -> I would say no point in switching to EB2.
Labour + 140 will take atleast 12 months and another 6-9K US$. Not worth it because even otherwise you might have your GC within 12-25 montha from now.
PD Nov 2002 and beyond : Have to actively consider switching to EB2. Myself being in this range, I am doing the leg work and waiting to hear on what happens to the recapture bill. If it does not happen then these PD's should switch if they can and qualify.
Instead of being jealous towards EB2 bonanza , I think EB3 applicants should make use of this Eb3->EB2 conversion option and participate in the bonanza.
Yes, it costs additional 9K . Consider that the price of the ill advised decision to go in for Eb3 to begin with.
An opportunity to get past this GC mess and start realizing your dreams on both personal and professional front.
Labour + 140 will take atleast 12 months and another 6-9K US$. Not worth it because even otherwise you might have your GC within 12-25 montha from now.
PD Nov 2002 and beyond : Have to actively consider switching to EB2. Myself being in this range, I am doing the leg work and waiting to hear on what happens to the recapture bill. If it does not happen then these PD's should switch if they can and qualify.
Instead of being jealous towards EB2 bonanza , I think EB3 applicants should make use of this Eb3->EB2 conversion option and participate in the bonanza.
Yes, it costs additional 9K . Consider that the price of the ill advised decision to go in for Eb3 to begin with.
An opportunity to get past this GC mess and start realizing your dreams on both personal and professional front.
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authrd
09-22 10:41 AM
Irrespective of whether or not cheapass desi sw consulting companies have spoilt it for the rest of us, the point here is that making us wait for an unreasonably long time is something we ought to question..which is what I believe IV is doing
I dont mind if the congress passes a bill and says it's going to take 6 yrs for a person to get his GC..its the uncertainty around retrogression thats bugging me. If I know it's going to take 6 or 8 or 10 yrs, i'd gladly look elsewhere..perhaps even go back to my home country.
I dont mind if the congress passes a bill and says it's going to take 6 yrs for a person to get his GC..its the uncertainty around retrogression thats bugging me. If I know it's going to take 6 or 8 or 10 yrs, i'd gladly look elsewhere..perhaps even go back to my home country.
nfinity
09-21 06:44 PM
Here is a message from Ajoba regarding the San Jose rally....
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
Hi Guyz,
First off, kudos to all the friends who attended the rally. I really appreciate the efforts and thank all of them.
I just thought of starting this thread for people who did not attend. Please explain in one or two sentences why you did not attend. Whether it was a personal reason, whether u were scared, didn't care, forgot, didn't know! etc.
My reason:
I really wanted a green card, but because India is growing so fast, I really don't think I want it so badly anymore. So, I did not have the motivation to go ...
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
Hi Guyz,
First off, kudos to all the friends who attended the rally. I really appreciate the efforts and thank all of them.
I just thought of starting this thread for people who did not attend. Please explain in one or two sentences why you did not attend. Whether it was a personal reason, whether u were scared, didn't care, forgot, didn't know! etc.
My reason:
I really wanted a green card, but because India is growing so fast, I really don't think I want it so badly anymore. So, I did not have the motivation to go ...
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
niklshah
05-13 01:00 PM
My AP expires in October 18 th Before how many months it can be renewed??
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