smehta1
06-19 09:53 PM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20070619-1542-cnsimmigration.html
By Jerry Kammer
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
3:42 p.m. June 19, 2007
WASHINGTON � Carlsbad Rep. Brian Bilbray and other �anti-amnesty� House Republicans delivered a sharp warning Tuesday that compromise immigration legislation pending in the Senate faces raucous and determined opposition if it reaches the House.
�The way you stop illegal immigration is not to start by announcing that you're going to reward illegal immigration,� said Bilbray, chairman of the 107-member Immigration Reform Caucus.
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The group, made up of 100 Republicans and seven Democrats, opposes the Senate and Bush administration proposal to legalize the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants as part of a broad package of immigration reforms.
The Senate recently debated and shelved the proposal but is moving toward a second round of debate. If the Senate passes it, attention then will shift to the House.
Last year, with Republicans controlling both sides of Capitol Hill, the House passed an enforcement-only bill while the Senate approved a sweeping legalization. With the two chambers moving in opposite directions, both bills died.
This year, Democrats control both the House and Senate. For that reason, it is unclear whether Bilbray and his largely Republican caucus would be able to defeat the legalization legislation again this year.
However, that didn't stop them from talking tough Tuesday in rejecting the latest gambit by proponents in the Senate to win over balky Republicans � a promise to spend $4.4 billion on border enforcement.
�Only in Washington would people believe that throwing money at the problem is going to solve it,� said Bilbray. �This is a blatant attempt by senators to extort votes so they can fast track an amnesty plan.�
�It's time to be resolute; it's time to show some backbone, and it's time to stop amnesty,� said Peter King, R-N.Y., who added that he would soon introduce enforcement-only legislation that would require a crackdown both at the border and at the workplace.
Bilbray claimed that public outrage against the Senate bill has stunned many Democrats, making them wary of supporting the Senate approach.
The Senate could take up the immigration bill late this week, beginning votes on a series of amendments expected to be presented by Republicans and Democrats. A final vote on the measure could come as soon as next week.
Senate passage would send the bill to the House, where it would go through a subcommittee that includes several outspoken critics of legalization.
Tamar Jacoby of the conservative Manhattan Institute, a proponent of legalization, said the fight in the House, if it occurs, �is going to be bitter. It's going to be hand-to-hand combat.�
By Jerry Kammer
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
3:42 p.m. June 19, 2007
WASHINGTON � Carlsbad Rep. Brian Bilbray and other �anti-amnesty� House Republicans delivered a sharp warning Tuesday that compromise immigration legislation pending in the Senate faces raucous and determined opposition if it reaches the House.
�The way you stop illegal immigration is not to start by announcing that you're going to reward illegal immigration,� said Bilbray, chairman of the 107-member Immigration Reform Caucus.
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The group, made up of 100 Republicans and seven Democrats, opposes the Senate and Bush administration proposal to legalize the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants as part of a broad package of immigration reforms.
The Senate recently debated and shelved the proposal but is moving toward a second round of debate. If the Senate passes it, attention then will shift to the House.
Last year, with Republicans controlling both sides of Capitol Hill, the House passed an enforcement-only bill while the Senate approved a sweeping legalization. With the two chambers moving in opposite directions, both bills died.
This year, Democrats control both the House and Senate. For that reason, it is unclear whether Bilbray and his largely Republican caucus would be able to defeat the legalization legislation again this year.
However, that didn't stop them from talking tough Tuesday in rejecting the latest gambit by proponents in the Senate to win over balky Republicans � a promise to spend $4.4 billion on border enforcement.
�Only in Washington would people believe that throwing money at the problem is going to solve it,� said Bilbray. �This is a blatant attempt by senators to extort votes so they can fast track an amnesty plan.�
�It's time to be resolute; it's time to show some backbone, and it's time to stop amnesty,� said Peter King, R-N.Y., who added that he would soon introduce enforcement-only legislation that would require a crackdown both at the border and at the workplace.
Bilbray claimed that public outrage against the Senate bill has stunned many Democrats, making them wary of supporting the Senate approach.
The Senate could take up the immigration bill late this week, beginning votes on a series of amendments expected to be presented by Republicans and Democrats. A final vote on the measure could come as soon as next week.
Senate passage would send the bill to the House, where it would go through a subcommittee that includes several outspoken critics of legalization.
Tamar Jacoby of the conservative Manhattan Institute, a proponent of legalization, said the fight in the House, if it occurs, �is going to be bitter. It's going to be hand-to-hand combat.�
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rajeshalex
07-14 10:20 AM
check this thread....
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20163
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20163
dixie
07-10 07:15 PM
this is the first time i heard details about this bill even though he has been talking about it after meeting Bush. the news article thread has the analysis i found from an anti immigration group site. AILA has posted it as their news today however they have not yet posted the summary of the bill. The question is which one of the 3 --SKIL bill, CIR or Pence will be really voted and which ones will be put in the backburner for future or silent demise!
In any case, Pence is one of the co-sponsors of the SKIL bill in the house.So I dont really think his bill would exclude us.The point is at least one of those bills should progress from where they are right now .. ANY bill.
In any case, Pence is one of the co-sponsors of the SKIL bill in the house.So I dont really think his bill would exclude us.The point is at least one of those bills should progress from where they are right now .. ANY bill.
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07-18 08:41 AM
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mhathi
05-22 01:52 PM
Thank you for writing to me regarding our country's immigration system.
Our nation's immigration and border security system is broken and must be fixed. We must require illegal immigrants to step forward and become legal and we must better secure our borders. We must restore the rule of law and enhance security at our borders. The Congress and the President must work together to reform our laws. We also must use the full force of the law against employers who hire illegal immigrants.
I support changes to the law that will require illegal immigrants to become legal. They must pay taxes, learn English, and pass criminal background checks. This process won't be easy or quick, but it will be fair and practical. Individuals who came to this country illegally will be bumped to the back of the line behind those who waited to come to this country legally. And illegal immigrants with a criminal record would be deported. Those who refuse to register and meet these conditions also should be deported.
To secure our borders, the government should require the use of a biometric entry-exit system for all land borders, so that we have an accurate record of who is entering and leaving the United States. We should create a "smart" enforcement regime which will produce more efficient inspections and screenings, and allow us to target and tailor our limited resources to combat illegal smuggling of people and contraband. I supported recent appropriations that provided $1.6 billion for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology, and facility construction, as well as the hiring of 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
To meet the needs of our workforce and promote family reunification, we should set in place realistic immigration numbers and policies, and clear the backlog of legal visas, green card legal permit resident and citizenship applications. Senator Feinstein has introduced the "Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits and Security Act", S. 1038, in order to provide for new blue card visas and modify the H-2A program. Senator Mikulski has introduced the "Save our Small and Seasonal Businesses Act", S. 388, to extend the annual cap exemption for returning H-2B workers. While these two bills address key issues in the immigration debate, a comprehensive approach is the only way to adequately deal with this issue.
We can no longer ignore corporations who are hiring and exploiting illegal workers. This practice takes jobs away from Americans and depresses wages for everyone. These unlawful companies must be prosecuted and face stiff criminal and civil penalties. We need smart policies like improved border patrols, full enforcement of our laws, and requiring illegal immigrants to become legal.
The status quo is not working. Allowing 12 million to hide in the shadows and live in this country illegally is unacceptable. Our system must be fixed. Again, thank you for writing to me regarding this important issue. If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Our nation's immigration and border security system is broken and must be fixed. We must require illegal immigrants to step forward and become legal and we must better secure our borders. We must restore the rule of law and enhance security at our borders. The Congress and the President must work together to reform our laws. We also must use the full force of the law against employers who hire illegal immigrants.
I support changes to the law that will require illegal immigrants to become legal. They must pay taxes, learn English, and pass criminal background checks. This process won't be easy or quick, but it will be fair and practical. Individuals who came to this country illegally will be bumped to the back of the line behind those who waited to come to this country legally. And illegal immigrants with a criminal record would be deported. Those who refuse to register and meet these conditions also should be deported.
To secure our borders, the government should require the use of a biometric entry-exit system for all land borders, so that we have an accurate record of who is entering and leaving the United States. We should create a "smart" enforcement regime which will produce more efficient inspections and screenings, and allow us to target and tailor our limited resources to combat illegal smuggling of people and contraband. I supported recent appropriations that provided $1.6 billion for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology, and facility construction, as well as the hiring of 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
To meet the needs of our workforce and promote family reunification, we should set in place realistic immigration numbers and policies, and clear the backlog of legal visas, green card legal permit resident and citizenship applications. Senator Feinstein has introduced the "Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits and Security Act", S. 1038, in order to provide for new blue card visas and modify the H-2A program. Senator Mikulski has introduced the "Save our Small and Seasonal Businesses Act", S. 388, to extend the annual cap exemption for returning H-2B workers. While these two bills address key issues in the immigration debate, a comprehensive approach is the only way to adequately deal with this issue.
We can no longer ignore corporations who are hiring and exploiting illegal workers. This practice takes jobs away from Americans and depresses wages for everyone. These unlawful companies must be prosecuted and face stiff criminal and civil penalties. We need smart policies like improved border patrols, full enforcement of our laws, and requiring illegal immigrants to become legal.
The status quo is not working. Allowing 12 million to hide in the shadows and live in this country illegally is unacceptable. Our system must be fixed. Again, thank you for writing to me regarding this important issue. If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
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05-18 12:39 PM
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gunabcd
07-17 10:00 PM
I hope you understand that Bigtime's post was thickly laced with sarcasm.
It was so intelligently written, that many "skilled workers" did not get it.
It was so intelligently written, that many "skilled workers" did not get it.
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anu_t
06-22 01:27 PM
Does the new CIR Bill invalidate AC21...if yes then will it affect people who already have EAD before enactment of the bill.
I read it too many times. But there is no truth about it.Right?Can anybody clear it please?
I read it too many times. But there is no truth about it.Right?Can anybody clear it please?
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reddymjm
06-15 09:58 PM
Understood every point of yours & I stand by what you said except for the language as it could have been a bit better. Regarding EB3 or EB2, maybe IV should work attaching a provision as part of its CIR work, which makes USCIS determine whether a candidate is in EB3 or EB2 based on the PERM & 140 instead of letting companies & attorneys mention it. If this happens the process will be much better as USCIS controls the categories & applicants do not need to beg a company to throw them into an EB2 basket or EB3 basket. Also, applicants can have certain amount of freedom from the companies.
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
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pappu
11-14 08:37 PM
If you have not yet understood the importance of IV, now is the time to ACT.
About IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=35
IV's achievements summarized by Macaca
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
Start participating in your local state chapters. If there is no state chapter, please start one. Please see my weblog for guidance:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
Still not convinced that IV has the leadership, look at this picture of Jay in front of the capitol during the IV DC Rally:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/11/iv-is-this.html
Want to see some DC rally pictures:
http://dcrally.blogspot.com
IV has its own blog:
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com
Look around. An IV meet up may be happening in your neighborhood/city.
While most of you were tracking your receipts, FP notices, EADs and APs, IV was working relentlessly to achieve its sole motive: "ERADICATE RETROGRESSION"
The irony of the current state of affairs that it is a long struggle to achieve the motive. We need your support at the grass roots level. "Are you upto it?". As Gatorade says, "IS IT IN YOU?"
"The Time is always right to do the right thing" -MLK,Jr.
I have an EAD, what can go wrong now?
Well, continue to pay $1K per person for EAD/AP every year until you get your GC. You will never have peace of mind that comes with a Permanent Work Permit aka GC.
How do I contact IV?
Contact any of the IV active members and they will direct you. A simple PM is all that you need. Some of the members you can contact are pappu, logiclife, paskal, chandu123, janilsal,needhelp,english_august, franklin.
Telephone: (202) 386-6250
EMail: info AT immigrationvoice.org
Thanks for putting it together.
About IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=35
IV's achievements summarized by Macaca
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
Start participating in your local state chapters. If there is no state chapter, please start one. Please see my weblog for guidance:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
Still not convinced that IV has the leadership, look at this picture of Jay in front of the capitol during the IV DC Rally:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/11/iv-is-this.html
Want to see some DC rally pictures:
http://dcrally.blogspot.com
IV has its own blog:
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com
Look around. An IV meet up may be happening in your neighborhood/city.
While most of you were tracking your receipts, FP notices, EADs and APs, IV was working relentlessly to achieve its sole motive: "ERADICATE RETROGRESSION"
The irony of the current state of affairs that it is a long struggle to achieve the motive. We need your support at the grass roots level. "Are you upto it?". As Gatorade says, "IS IT IN YOU?"
"The Time is always right to do the right thing" -MLK,Jr.
I have an EAD, what can go wrong now?
Well, continue to pay $1K per person for EAD/AP every year until you get your GC. You will never have peace of mind that comes with a Permanent Work Permit aka GC.
How do I contact IV?
Contact any of the IV active members and they will direct you. A simple PM is all that you need. Some of the members you can contact are pappu, logiclife, paskal, chandu123, janilsal,needhelp,english_august, franklin.
Telephone: (202) 386-6250
EMail: info AT immigrationvoice.org
Thanks for putting it together.
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pa_arora
09-27 01:06 PM
Speed of approval is not the problem. The NUMBERS are the problem. We saw that in June when so many ppl got approved.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn’t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn’t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
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99mutd08
05-19 02:00 PM
Thanks for all the efforts in advance.Contributed 100 dollars.Would not be able to make it to DC. Go IV
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05-15 06:10 PM
I also missed out the stimulus payment due to my wife's ITIN. Bollocks to FAIR...
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waiting4gc
02-13 03:43 PM
-> Ask them for 30 seconds of time to make your pitch
-> 2nd line should be that you are not pitching amway or quixstar, no offense to folks who engage in these businesses but most people assume that you are trying to catch them for one of these and run away
-> You should have a quick two liner which states why you need your help. You can say that you are a legal immigrant trying to petition President Bush to help improve the life of LEGAL immigrants. You just need to get the person to put their name and address and sign at bottom.
-> If they show further interest quickly run through the 6 points on the letter
-> Make sure you take permission from people whose places you are campaigning outside and make sure those have a heavy flow of legal immigrants
Hope this helps. Your hit rate with good traffic should be at least 20/hr.
Thanks Needhelp!
So I have trickled into 152 tonight. I thought I'd try my hand at campaigning at some local places and managed 3! It seemed a lot harder than I imagined, I think I need to work on my introduction and smile ;) All three folks looked scared and suspicious of me but atleast they signed! Not giving up hope though! I have some others in the works via some good friends and I am going to try and tap more immigration law firms in SF. I am still pledging 200 and hope for more!! Any tips on campaigning to strangers, and I will be set! Thanks guys.
Have a good eve all.
-> 2nd line should be that you are not pitching amway or quixstar, no offense to folks who engage in these businesses but most people assume that you are trying to catch them for one of these and run away
-> You should have a quick two liner which states why you need your help. You can say that you are a legal immigrant trying to petition President Bush to help improve the life of LEGAL immigrants. You just need to get the person to put their name and address and sign at bottom.
-> If they show further interest quickly run through the 6 points on the letter
-> Make sure you take permission from people whose places you are campaigning outside and make sure those have a heavy flow of legal immigrants
Hope this helps. Your hit rate with good traffic should be at least 20/hr.
Thanks Needhelp!
So I have trickled into 152 tonight. I thought I'd try my hand at campaigning at some local places and managed 3! It seemed a lot harder than I imagined, I think I need to work on my introduction and smile ;) All three folks looked scared and suspicious of me but atleast they signed! Not giving up hope though! I have some others in the works via some good friends and I am going to try and tap more immigration law firms in SF. I am still pledging 200 and hope for more!! Any tips on campaigning to strangers, and I will be set! Thanks guys.
Have a good eve all.
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Ahimsa
11-08 02:07 PM
... He can veto the immigration reform the Dems propose by saying its not along the lines he wanted it to be. So Rumsfield resignation is a good sign if you look at the over all picture. It also means the Dems are going to spend less time setting up inquiry commitees on everything the President & Republicans have done in the last 6 yrs thus moving forward quickly.
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Senate and President were always supportive of CIR but the House was not.
Mr. Specter mentioned "... if House members do not like the way illegal immigration was handled, tell us in a conference we will change it...". But the house rejected CIR.
Please see Rumsfield resignation does not make any difference as far as President's position w.r.t to CIR.
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Senate and President were always supportive of CIR but the House was not.
Mr. Specter mentioned "... if House members do not like the way illegal immigration was handled, tell us in a conference we will change it...". But the house rejected CIR.
Please see Rumsfield resignation does not make any difference as far as President's position w.r.t to CIR.
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pa_arora
07-15 07:37 PM
Based on the wording of the visa distribution law, it does not look like the pattern change is a permanent one. The pattern might change again as per USCIS whims and fancy.
Read the part "Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to limit the authority of the Secretary of State to determine the procedures for the processing of immigrant visa applications or the locations where such applications will be processed."
That's was my earlier post to vldrao meant. This might be a make-shift approach to use up the visas for this year only. The predictions we are doing for next year(s) might not be true..we should just wait to see how things start rolling next month and if something is published for rule change from USCIS/DOS.
If someone has a link to this vertical to horizontal change..please post.
Read the part "Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to limit the authority of the Secretary of State to determine the procedures for the processing of immigrant visa applications or the locations where such applications will be processed."
That's was my earlier post to vldrao meant. This might be a make-shift approach to use up the visas for this year only. The predictions we are doing for next year(s) might not be true..we should just wait to see how things start rolling next month and if something is published for rule change from USCIS/DOS.
If someone has a link to this vertical to horizontal change..please post.
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julsun
07-26 08:38 AM
DO NOT go with these guys. Extremely poor service, no communication, rude receptionist, no response to email/phone calls, and keep on saying they would finish your papers next weekend......list is on and on..........
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Better_Days
07-09 01:59 PM
In my opinion, with this global economy - if the spouse is well educated and can work, there should be an opportunity for that person to work (atleast few hours per day).
Excellent point. I think that the heart of the issue is that the immigration system in US is stuck in stone age when the needs of a knowledge driven, global economy are considered. Every visa category denied a job is seen as having an American having a shot at that opportunity. This is a short sighted view: people that can be launching companies etc are sitting and waiting for a decision from an inefficient, ineffective and outdated bureaucracy.
But what do I know? I "knew the rules before I came here" :o
Excellent point. I think that the heart of the issue is that the immigration system in US is stuck in stone age when the needs of a knowledge driven, global economy are considered. Every visa category denied a job is seen as having an American having a shot at that opportunity. This is a short sighted view: people that can be launching companies etc are sitting and waiting for a decision from an inefficient, ineffective and outdated bureaucracy.
But what do I know? I "knew the rules before I came here" :o
patha007
06-02 02:21 PM
My wife is on H4. She has applied for SSN for stimulus package and got denial letter. How will be useful this letter to get SSN for her. Please advice.
Thanks for your great help.
Thanks for your great help.
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